tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898887878057875332.post5845401892810681133..comments2023-10-30T05:53:46.761-04:00Comments on Because I'm Right...: Operation Chaos Triumphs!Nocomme1http://www.blogger.com/profile/07854461583080704015noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898887878057875332.post-62120540487267875442008-04-25T10:57:00.000-04:002008-04-25T10:57:00.000-04:00rw:Yep. That's why I told him to pick up Liberal F...rw:<BR/><BR/>Yep. That's why I told him to pick up Liberal Fascism, which pulls the mask off the truly ugly face of the Left.<BR/><BR/>Socialism/Fascism adapts itself to the particular culture of the country in which it takes root. In Germany it meant killing Jews. The Italians weren't disposed to that sort of thing so didn't their form of fascism didn't manifest that murderous policy (until Hitler started applying pressure on them). The idea that government should be the new God and reign supreme, however was the same. And yes, it is also exactly what the Left believes as well.<BR/><BR/>The idea that conservatism and fascism are in any way related is wrong on its face. Anybody ever heard of a small government Nazi?Nocomme1https://www.blogger.com/profile/07854461583080704015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898887878057875332.post-32944031491744438332008-04-25T10:31:00.000-04:002008-04-25T10:31:00.000-04:00If wisedog and others are going to comment, at lea...If wisedog and others are going to comment, at least say something I can't already read on the DNC website of approved talking points. This repeating of what they've been told to believe by their liberal leaders is getting old.<BR/><BR/>Fascism is a subset of Marxism, as is socialism and communism. That's one of the main reasons the Germans and Russians didn't like each other in WW2, because they both had their little versions of how they thought Marxism should be implemented. But Marxism centers around the State having the power over the people and the various instruments created by the people, for example their farms or the companies they create (corporations). That's modern-day liberalism defined to the letter; more gov't regulations over people's lives.<BR/><BR/>So yes, the Democrats view of the ability of the 'state' to be able to solve problems DOES equate them to marxism/socialism/commiunism/fascism, because it's from the same source and their desire is the same thing. I'm not saying it's something they're willing to discuss out-loud (though they are getting slightly more bold at admitting who and what they are), but as a former Dem I know it to be the discussion behind closed doors, and it's the main reason I left the party.<BR/><BR/>rwAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898887878057875332.post-92047695932375730282008-04-25T06:36:00.000-04:002008-04-25T06:36:00.000-04:00Wise Dog:"The Democrats view of the ability of the...Wise Dog:<BR/><BR/>"The Democrats view of the ability of the 'state' to be able to solve problems does not equate them to Nazis or facists." It actually does. Mussolini and Hitler were fans of FDR's in the early 30's, seeing in his policies strong echoes of their own philosophy. <BR/><BR/>I actually agree that Bush's big govt conservatism uses many of the tactics and rhetoric of the Left (and derivatively) of fascism; certainly more so than Reagan conservatism. But Bush is a rank amateur compared to Woodrow Wilson and FDR whose administrations were thick with socialists/fascists. Bush is Wilson on training wheels. Hillary and Obama, I believe would be far closer to the fscist model than Bush would be if he were President for another five terms. (Oh, the horror, huh? LOL)<BR/><BR/>You really should pick up Liberal Fascism which makes the relationship between fascism and the Left very, very clear.<BR/><BR/>And stop by often. Things are dull without a little thought-provoking disagreement.Nocomme1https://www.blogger.com/profile/07854461583080704015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898887878057875332.post-33443436123833348872008-04-25T02:51:00.000-04:002008-04-25T02:51:00.000-04:00The Democrats view of the ability of the 'state' t...The Democrats view of the ability of the 'state' to be able to solve problems does not equate them to Nazis or facists. This line of thinking is great as propaganda material for conservatives but in this era (1980-present) it isn't the democrats that use the tactics you write about.<BR/><BR/>The republicans have been the master of labeling "each issue a crisis requiring military-style mobilization". Reagan's "War on Drugs", Department of HOMELAND SECURITY and Bush's "War on Terrorism" are surely of the same fratenatiy you speak against. Not to mention Bush's surviellance of bank accounts, telephones and the use of torture are all tools of the omnipotent state you revile. Though Democrats maybe tagged as 'fascist/socialists' but it is actually the Republicans that mastered the use and implementation of these tools through their propaganda officers such as Karl Rove who can manufacture a war in Iraq through the fear of WMD that was non-existant.<BR/><BR/>For now these tools are being used against "enemy combatants" who DID intend the U.S. harm but it is only a matter of time before warrantless wiretaps are used against U.S. citizens who might have committed a criminal offense (ie; drug dealing) but are soon to be labeled "domestic terrorists" thereby allowing the provisions of the "Patriot Act" to be enforced much more broadly than intended. This ultimately will not be the fault of the Dems but more likely lay at the feet of the Republicans and their supporters.<BR/><BR/>I have read some of your postings and they are.......lets just say true to your cause and well spoken. I'll drop by more often to 'stir the pot' if you don't mind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898887878057875332.post-26489704706868972172008-04-24T22:38:00.000-04:002008-04-24T22:38:00.000-04:00Thanks for dropping by, wise dog, but I've got to ...Thanks for dropping by, wise dog, but I've got to disagree with you about Rush's "mischaracterizations of democrats as "socialists / facists" can be heard by his listeners, who then repeat it but yet they couldn't tell the difference between a socialists and fascist or better yet name one of each (present company excluded."<BR/>The fact is that there are very few difference between fascists and socialists and those on the Left are their philosophical descendants. I posted a review of Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg http://becauseimright-nocomme1.blogspot.com/2008/03/liberal-genealogy.html not too long ago. You should pick it up.<BR/>Nazis were National Socialists. Mussolini was a self-described socialist. To quote myself from that previous post, "Fascists and progressives (the name by which liberals were known until the middle of FDR’s years in office) did (and still do) in fact have much in common; the raising of the State to quasi-religious status and the corollary need to diminish religion’s place in the public square; the use of the tactic of making each issue a “crisis” requiring military-style mobilization, (Think War on Poverty or the need to Save The Earth.) including the need for mass communal action. They also both see the need for the virtual ideological take-over of the universities and believe that the “old ways” are corrupt and outmoded. They believe in “new ideas”, “new ways of doing things” and a “new politics of meaning”. They frequently agitate for “change”.<BR/>So if Rush happens to point this out and people agree, I have no problem with it.Nocomme1https://www.blogger.com/profile/07854461583080704015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898887878057875332.post-22451634241686576682008-04-24T19:36:00.000-04:002008-04-24T19:36:00.000-04:00Nocommie1I would agree that he does echo many of h...Nocommie1<BR/><BR/>I would agree that he does echo many of his listeners sentiment...but not all. I listen to him also but thats because I'm here in Utah where that style of opinion is the only available (besides blogs and MSNBC : ) )<BR/><BR/>I do disagree on the point that his audience is better informed. Because HE IS "the drive by media". His mischaracterizations of democrats as "socialists / facists" can be heard by his listeners, who then repeat it but yet they couldn't tell the difference between a socialists and fascist or better yet name one of each (present company excluded.<BR/><BR/>keith Olberman = Rush Limbaugh from different perspectivesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898887878057875332.post-49299467524216528772008-04-24T13:45:00.000-04:002008-04-24T13:45:00.000-04:00Wanna be autocrat?? Get a grip.If you were saying...Wanna be autocrat?? Get a grip.<BR/><BR/>If you were saying that about those who watch KO or Jon Stewart or Colbert, I would agree. Now there's an audience sitting around waiting for marching orders and just itching to be relevant.<BR/><BR/>rwAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898887878057875332.post-59109926315402933482008-04-24T06:33:00.000-04:002008-04-24T06:33:00.000-04:00Rush's audience is far better informed than the av...Rush's audience is far better informed than the average American. I listen to him regularly but I also read widely, including much material from the Left.<BR/><BR/>Rush's audience doesn't slavishly follow him. I think if they're going along with Operation Chaos they're doing so because it is right in line with their own thinking, in the first place.<BR/><BR/>Rush isn't popular because he's leading his listeners. He's popular because he echoes their thinking.Nocomme1https://www.blogger.com/profile/07854461583080704015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898887878057875332.post-31773778843813498972008-04-24T00:41:00.000-04:002008-04-24T00:41:00.000-04:00Amazing to see so many Americans blindly follow th...Amazing to see so many Americans blindly follow this wannabe autocrat. Being spoon fed your political opinions by an entertainer who is on par with professional wrestling is sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com